@floatvoid @thelibrarian c# for a significant number of studios (unity is pretty popular). js is everywhere, web, games, mobile, desktop etc. c++ is in games but jumping into that and getting a job at a studio shipping on c++ is less likely. if you just want to pick based on stats or surveys, insights.stackoverflow.com/sur

@norikawa it really depends what it is you're making... like any app = answer is any framework :P

@norikawa maybe flutter counts, Qt and friends, depends on what you're makin

animation UI requires too many things. if I make it spacious and comfortable then it almost takes the whole screen -_-

I love all programming languages. all of them. I love that they exist. I love that they're good at some things, bad at others. I love going over their designs, intentions, and outcomes - and seeing how well they landed with regards to their goals. I love reading their goals. I love seeing history, evolution, and stagnation. I love all of it, and I love using them under their intended mental space. I love using them for things they weren't made for.

It's really frustrating that programming /

There's so many cool things to see and learn and this weird stuff is blocking. You'll come out a 10000x better programmer if you discard it.

<3

You can have your own personality. Try to contribute stuff to the conversation that hasn't been copy pasted between reddit/HN/trashfireprogrammersontwitterdotcom a million times.

Literally anything else.

If you find yourself accidentally indoctrinated by this culture in programming, just look closely at yourself.

It's ok not to like using a language. It's ok to not like being forced to use a language. It's ok to really dislike languages. It's ok to love a language more than any others. It's ok to use the best tool for the job, highly recommended. It's all ok!

But please for everyone around you just ...don't /

as a space to exist is so heavily identity and dogma based.

Why people stake their sense of identity and self on the tools they use - instead of seeing them as they are - tools, I'll never understand.

They draw lines in the sand, and yell back and forth like children. They form religions and slap the wrist of anyone who says anything. They get entitled about everything and anything. They think their language invented the concepts they implement now (nope). They gatekeep the most inane stuff /

I love all programming languages. all of them. I love that they exist. I love that they're good at some things, bad at others. I love going over their designs, intentions, and outcomes - and seeing how well they landed with regards to their goals. I love reading their goals. I love seeing history, evolution, and stagnation. I love all of it, and I love using them under their intended mental space. I love using them for things they weren't made for.

It's really frustrating that programming /

@floatvoid i... if you can't see the anti js thing relating to the insufferable types spouting the same lines then I dunno, but either way. have fun.

@floatvoid it's literally the copy paste of reddit programmers, it's the worst part of programming culture.

@floatvoid again you've been lied to. js has some of the most elegant design but the dogmatic perspective out there disallows people from seeing it for whatever reason. and i'm 100% certain every example you give me I'll give you the same bs you're talking about right at home. this isn't a thing you should care about, use whatever tool is good for you... don't let the dogma live in your brain, it's so boring!

@m @neauoire @somnius are we just ignoring encryption exists, why do we want end to end encryption ONLY over the wire. it makes no sense. if you have the keys then the silo is merely convenience, they have nothing.

@floatvoid you've just been lied to by "real programmers" this whole time.

@m @neauoire @somnius accessibility vs control is a false dichotomy a little. you can make a centralized service that gives you absolute control over your data, it's just that no company/market/whatever has any incentive to invest the time. the issue stems slightly further back, where motivation is involved, there is one clear motivation on the centralized-as-we-know-it and the rest is left as undefined.

@kyle seems neat. might want to touch up some spelling here and there 'A declarative approch is taken In this lanauge' on the judo page for example :)

@urutau an interesting article, some good stuff. however their example (wikipedia) is miles from their stated description in practice. only on paper is the first edit respected over a millionth, and there are several cases of discrimination, erasure, suppression of truth etc all by mods given power over the information, with no real recourse. it too falls prey to the power trip issues seen elsewhere (like stack overflow, reddit, etc).

@neauoire the red skull is a bit silly but the black is real good. I saw some black sails in vancouver on the water when we went sailing around the bay, I should find it..

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