class is really weird because there are a lot of ideas in it that really resonate with me and echo ideas from , but it's always in the context of generating revenue for whatever megacorp is your employer, and by extension also to its shareholders.
Like, we had a whole lecture about agile, which basically boiled down to: "workers can get a bit of anarchy, as a treat, and only as long as they help us build our monopoly".

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Eg.: temporary hierarchies emerging only as needed and with association to them being largely voluntary? That's a great idea. Creation of a monopoly being the implicit goal of these groups? Not so great.

Side note: I'm not an anarchist, but I do like a lot of the ideas anarchist friends have presented. I hope I'm not misrepresenting them.

@csepp try reading Anarchist Cybernetics by Thomas Swann :3 from a lovely site like for example. I think you'd like it. There is a LOT of missed potential :P

@csepp (maybe skip the "history of anarchism" bits because it is just silly grudges from political fallouts of people who haven't been alive in ages idk this author doesn't strike me as the best political historian)

@csepp Since 80% of #Agile is "how can we defeat developer productivity in the face of dysfunctional management", handling your pencil-pushing overlords is of course a very relevant topic.
For me, the good parts of agile are: Ask for help, discuss problems, remove obstacles. So basically a functioning social environment. And sometimes a few tricks to get your mind un-stuck.

@wakame @csepp Agreed. We don't do capital-A Agile here but parts of it are useful:
- The people using your work are part of your circle, not apart from it.
- Work on communicating better; you can always do better.
- Try not to make mistakes (misunderstand needs, etc.) but you will make 'em; make sure your workflow is structured to find it early, not make a big bad deal of it, and make it easy to go correct it.
- You are in control of your own work: what you do, how you do it, etc.

@csepp When I started getting into anarchist literature, that jumped out at me as well. I think there's a real missed opportunity to take agirchism (sorry) to its full potential, but sadly modern agile is heavily predicated on hierarchy and very much misunderstands the principle and emotional appeal against hierarchy of progenitor agile.

@csepp A piece of advice I share with some of the junior agile coaches I work with is to move beyond agile. Agile as an industry hasn't developed on its core values much in the last two decades.

The authors of the Agile Manifesto knew that companies would not change anything unless it served the needs of increasing profit. This is why the authors were sure to state up front that the goal of the whole thing is to serve the business: 1/

"Our highest priority is to satisfy the customer through early and continuous delivery of valuable software".

This is why agile can never realize its more anarchist tendencies, as they would threaten the existing corporate for-profit capitalist structure.

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