Part of our work at Endless OS is around the usability of the GNOME desktop, guided by user testing. We're looking for test subjects for a 1-hour session, who are tech-savvy experts—e.g designers/developers, animators/…—with exposure to various devices & platforms. Bonus points if you're based near someone in the team—e.g. London—so we can put a laptop in front of you. Ping me here or to wjt@endlessos.org if you're interested!

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@wjt Is accessibility testing within scope? I'm pretty sure @weirdwriter@booktoot.club wrote about wanting to do such testing for FOSS projects.

Either way, I'd also be down to do some testing.

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@avalos I can probably guess and I doubt we will reach agreement as a result, but, what are you referring to here?

@wjt EndlessOS is the typical “closed source BUT with open source components” development model, because, according to you, Endless people, “wE cAn'T maKe it aLL oPeN sOuRce.”

@theruran @csepp @wjt @weirdwriter What's your point? The redistribution policy clearly states that you have usage restrictions, and also says that not all of EndlessOS is free software, only “almost all” components, but not all.

@avalos @csepp @wjt @weirdwriter my point is: I wonder what they hope to achieve by restricting use of their software. It is surprising (to me) to see such a policy. I don't trust software projects that don't clearly provide the source files so I can build it myself.

@wjt Super interesting. Protecting the brand and the non-profit need to discourage commerical use makes sense. Are there software components in Endless which are not open source such that I couldn't (with some work) make an image that is the exact same but branded TrevorOS or whatever?

@trevorflowers

1. The nvidia proprietary driver – you could just leave it out
2. Part of the module that implements https://www.endlessos.org/post/making-pcs-more-affordable-for-millions-of-people – again you would just leave it out, and one day I hope to have the resources to replace it with a open-source replacement
3. The thing that actually turns a load of debs into an ostree commit – we plan to open-source this but haven't had time. But it doesn't form part of the resulting OS

That's it, off the top of my head.

@wjt That seems pretty reasonable, to me anyway. Thanks for helping me understand.

@wjt

For the rent to own plan, what’s the expected final cost over retail?

@trevorflowers

@wjt Enforcing a trademark is one thing, but there is no indication here that EndlessOS source code is even available. I see no link to your GitHub, whereas even shy Open Core businesses at least put the GitHub icon in the footer of the webpage.

"Free download" and "Redistribution policy" says to me that this is freeware.

@avalos @csepp @weirdwriter

@theruran @avalos @csepp @weirdwriter you're right that it could be more prominent – thanks for the feedback!

@wjt I am doing the user testing for you right now and I am telling you that I didn't even notice "Developers" because it is under "Misc(ellaneous)" next to "Privacy Policy" and the actual link to GitHub is buried in the last paragraph of the page.

@avalos @csepp @weirdwriter

@avalos @wjt I don't particularly care about EndlessOS, I'm in it for the Gnome part.

@csepp Great question – it is not in scope for this current round but I've noted it based on this and some other replies. Thanks!

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