@jcmorrow It's an interesting exercise to do from time to time. Helps to see things in perspective.
Are you planning on expanding this to explain how you will try to live up to your values, or achieve them? I'd be curious to read that.
@neauoire Yes 🙂
There will be more to come soon I hope. To put things into navigational metaphor: right now I'm still figuring out what the next landmark is, but I think these values are a rough compass heading that won't lead me astray.
@jcmorrow this is amazing! Thanks for sharing these two resources / guides in the article.
- do you find a weekend with friend enough time to figure these values out?
- In Julian's article, money, fame and power are represented as means to an end, instead of goals themselves. How did you rank these 3 with that consideration in mind?
@changbai Haha, great questions! We took Friday and Monday off for travel, so that we really had Friday night -> Monday morning for focusing. I think it was enough time to come away feeling proud of our progress, but I also came away a little overwhelmed with more questions and todos. I think it was, as the saying goes, a great place to start and a bad place to stop.
@changbai Re: means to an end. That's a good question, and I think Julian actually says it best: "I can spend money to attain Knowledge, Fame, Power, Adventure, and so on.
But, if writing gets me more of those values right now... then what's the point of taking a decades-long detour to turn Money back into my preferred values? ". It's a bit like the parable about the fisherman and the businessman: https://victorylapretirement.com/2020/09/17/my-favorite-work-retirement-parable/
@changbai I think for me, the only real enabler is money, which is why it's high up on my list. It would be awesome to one day have an audience and to be able to influence people, but I see those things as products of me pursuing my values, not the other way around. Of course, there's a virtuous cycle in there somewhere, particularly around audience size, but I think a growth mindset focused on money, fame, or power risks compromising the whole project of life itself.
@changbai As the great David Foster Wallace said "the compelling reason for maybe choosing some sort of god or spiritual-type thing to worship is that pretty much anything else you worship will eat you alive. If you worship money and things, if they are where you tap real meaning in life, then you will never have enough. Worship your body and beauty and sexual allure and you will always feel ugly. And when time and age start showing, you will die a million deaths before they finally grieve you."
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