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I see so many people here that produce so many different kinds of cool and creative things and I want to know what the work methodology is to make it happen.

What's everyone's fix for carving out the time when you have several time-intensive interests?

I've been trying to make a habit of committing time each day to web dev, visual art, and music, but it seems inevitable that at least one of them doesn't happen after a while. Life gets busy. What do you do? What's your schedule?

@neauoire @luxpris The trick is to lower your expenses, set up a Patreon, and go live on a sailboat 😉

@neauoire @luxpris In all seriousness, I'm also curious about this. I feel like I had much more time and energy to work on small projects a few years ago. Working to rekindle that flame.

@ndpi @luxpris Then try journaling, read Marcus Aurelius' writing on the topic and try it.

@neauoire @luxpris Is Meditations the text you have in mind, or something else? How do you approach journalling?

@ndpi @luxpris yeah, book 2 and 3 talk about journaling, try reading that.

Everyday for the past 15 years, I write what I did on that day, just one line, like "2 hours playing music". It takes 2 seconds to do, but gives me an overview of my personal rythms and stamina, how much time I can dedicate to any one task, or topic.

@neauoire @luxpris It occurs to me that personal time tracking systems are the hacker's lightsaber — everyone has to build their own that fits them

@ndpi @neauoire @luxpris And most of them will burn you to a cinder if you try to melt through a blast door with them.

@lonnon @luxpris @ndpi the metaphor seems to say that they are too efficient at what they do? or something?

@neauoire @luxpris @ndpi Naw, just remarking on the unrealistic physics of lightsabers. Anything that could melt through a meter of alloy would have enough ambient heat to set you and everyone in the room on fire. No real metaphor here, just shitposting.
@neauoire @luxpris @ndpi Though I have been burned by spending too much time trying to find a "perfect" time tracking system. I spent years perusing productivity porn and trying things that didn't work.

@neauoire @luxpris Great, thanks; I'll pick it up again with a focus on journaling. I've been using TagTime (stochastic time tracking) at work and it's given me some mildly interesting insights into my time use — turns out I code more than I thought — but nothing very actionable just yet.

@ndpi @neauoire @luxpris you can try arbtt, open source automatic desktop time tracker
arbtt.nomeata.de/#what

Not as much value as from manual and conscious tracking, but you can collect lots of cool data with no effort

@neauoire @ndpi thanks for the rec. I already have a daily journaling practice but it serves more as a venting mechanism than anything else. I like the thought of a micro-journal like this. I'll give it a try.

@ndpi @luxpris haha, well I'm not sure if that really scales, or can be replicated. 🤔

@luxpris for me, the trick is sacrifice and optimization. I try to limit my hobbies so that I mostly spend time on those dearest to me.

@luxpris

This will probably not be a sufficient answer for your question. Sorry.

I'm retired. That, by itself, allows me to be very flexible. Some days, I do web things. Some days I work 3DPrinting. The Word of the Day is the exception. I made the commitment (to myself) to do it, do I do. Some days take longer than others.

For all the years I was actively employed, the majority of those things were not part of the day. Fortunately, my work was also creative, so it became a habit.

@Algot thanks for the input. Yes, the work piece is huge to consider. I've been away from the 9-5 world for the past 7 months and it's obviously made a large difference on the amount of time I can dedicate to passion projects.

Funds are running low but it's just incentivized me to work harder to adopt streams of income that allow me to do what I actually want. Thankful for the privilege.

@luxpris I wait until one skill / activity wants to emerge and I use it for some time, and then repeat

@luxpris in my experience it's the fact that life gets busy that forces me in to a creative mood. you eventually crave a scenario where pure execution becomes a state of bliss, along with a bit of blind optimism.

@toon optimism is big. We live in a world saturated with cool stuff (and awful stuff but that's for another toot) so it's easy to get lost in the noise/discouraged to create. That in itself is a deterrent to artistic productivity.

@luxpris I tend to split my time between my multiple tasks, and switch between projects after I complete each task. That mostly does it for me!

@luxpris I can relate, it's very hard and there is still not enough time, even with all the improvements.
I have too many cool things I want to do and I don't really see a way to get to do all of them, even if I quit my day job.

Getting to know people who make things (like this community) is one way for me -- I'm almost as happy seeing someone else working on things that matter for me, as if I did them myself.

@luxpris Kind of boring answer maybe, but biggest time saver was stopped wasting time on video games and other time drains.
I'm lucky my projects and making things rather than consuming started being feeling progressively more fun kinda -- I know many people genuinely struggle.

Also generally optimized few routine things here and there, e.g. only watch tv shows on a treadmill or during house chores.

@luxpris Like many people mentioned, keeping journals and todo lists helped a lot to understand what actually takes my time and worth optimizing.

Also takes less cognitive effort on thinking what you can work on next, and reduces space for procrastination.

@karlicoss yes, cutting back on certain forms of consumption is big. I think it's a struggle for folks because it's easy to equate entertainment with recharging. I think it personally serves that purpose to an extent but it doesn't often still my mind: it can drain me just as much as hard work does, leaving little energy for completing goal oriented tasks afterwards.

I think it's important to limit THOSE time drains, but still make room for the ones that truly bring peace to the mind.

@luxpris yep, that's actually another argument for journaling! E.g. one may find out it's not compulsive video gaming that recharges them, but, say, exercise, reading or learning, even though that may feel counterintuitive.

@karlicoss right on! For years I thought my drinking helped me recharge. My sedentary teenage self would be shocked to learn that it's actually going to the gym and riding my bicycle that does it. The self-awareness that journaling helps strengthen is great.

@luxpris read lots, carefully consider how you'd prefer to spend your time, quit some of your skin er boxes cold-turkey for a few months and see if you feel like you actually miss them, and work on things you care about

I try to set myself up such that working on things is what will naturally happen when either whimsy or need strike

@luxpris Occasional psychedelic trip rekindles and makes me introspect into various systems I run to manage my ‘flow’.

At this point everything I do is built up of rules I noted down. It’s a nice way to ground myself but still keep the freedom.

wiki.nikitavoloboev.xyz/focusi

As for psychedelics, tryptamines are amazing. 4 ho mipt, 5 meo dmt are nice. Especially when done in nice setting and with respect. Brains are powerful.

wiki.nikitavoloboev.xyz/drugs/

@nikivi I’ll never forget first time I tried Salvia. The first time I thought I truly died and got ego death. Instantly.

Salvia experience is absolutely wild. You forget you existed and were a person with a name. You experience only the present now and whatever rollercoaster of a trip Salvia wants you to show and feel.

After it it’s hard to not appreciate life and the brain you have for being able to filter all this daily input and make sense of it.

The mystery of this existence is so wild.

@luxpris The short answer is that I don’t really have a system. I work on creative projects when I want to, and when I don’t, that’s also okay. This means that things take a while to complete, and certain hobbies can go months untouched, but I always find that when I go back to them I can easily pick them up again.

Also sometimes it takes that few months of rest to figure out something new that I wouldn’t have thought to learn while I was in the thick of it!

@luxpris my answer is very biased by two things, though:

1. I have a full time job, which means both that I don’t have time to do creative work all the time, nor do I rely on it for an income. My methods tend to be really inconsistent, which isn’t great for maintaining an audience (I’m still figuring this out)
2. I have a few chronic illnesses that destroy my productivity for days or weeks at a time. As a result, I try not to rely on habits because they can disappear too easily.

@luxpris
my process basically consists of running in a circle while waving my arms over my head and screaming.

Not very effective so far, might have to work on the details...

@luxpris I track how much I skate and I set goals per week/month/year. Also, it's because I have to skate, otherwise I'm unhappy. So it will happen nonetheless. But I think a journal channels your energy.

@7047741 I like the idea of monthly goal setting. I usually do yearly and daily but that's about it.

Also I looked at your website. Cool design.

@luxpris It's also motivating to see your stats. It's not your body of work and at the same time it is.
I often brag about the hours I skated and I think people find me weird hahaha. But I'm bragging because I'm proud I reached my goals.
Also, I'm a remote freelance developer because it lets me travel and skate where the weather is good (winter sucks (rain and cold) for skating, so I escape), visit a lot of skateparks and street spots etc.
I can work at night or when it rains..

@luxpris I also took up the minimalist lifestyle. The less stuff the more time! More time to skate haha. I only have a backpack, a laptop, 2 sets of clothes, my skates and a repair kit and sometimes my surfboard/wetsuit with me. Oh and an e-reader!

@7047741 hell yes! I'm a vandweller but I'm currently stationary in Minneapolis while I sort out some family stuff. I'm at an apartment but I'm living out of a suitcase. All I have for entertainment outside of my laptop is a small stack of books. It's the life though. Not more I realistically need. It's true that accumulating "stuff" can sink your soul.

Plus the only disaster scenario is death. When you have few possessions there is less that anyone could take away.

@luxpris and nature bro, best 'entertainment'. Altho' the word does sound demeaning in this case.

@luxpris Also having not a lot of stuff and only have to pay for rent and food is deliberating, I only work like 40 hours a month. But I skate about a 100.

@luxpris One last note, I find it to be really helping to choose only one thing a day or even a week. Multi-tasking makes me diverge.
It's really hard to work and skate in the same day. I try to separate them.

@luxpris It's get you in kind of a zone. Like, I skate all day, go to bed, wake up and start skating again as if I didn't put off my skates. Gets you really going.
But in contrast it also helps to take a break too, reset button.

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