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@tindall this is such a weird take -- since switching back to linux full time in 2018 i actually get *a lot* more done and i am less stressed out in general lol

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@nasser @tindall I had the exact opposite reaction. I used Linux for many years and had almost lost whatever happiness I had with computing. It just seemed boring and broken and hopeless. Switching to a mac made me so much happier and so much more productive.

I sometimes go back to try what it's like but I still can't find anything I like. This is with sadness though, not gloat, I really wish it would have worked out and I think some day it will.

@mnda @tindall everyone's experience is their own, and I'm sorry you had a bad one! for what it's worth I am on Arch Linux with a carefully configured tiling window manager (bspwm) that has done wonders for my sense of anxiety when using computers... overlapping windows and desktop icons send me into an anxious spiral...

@nasser my problem is the ability to tweak things and too much choice; it makes me depth first search for the best possible solution which takes infinite time. I have spent countless hours recompiling Linux, for example.

My latest attempt was arch with sway. Didn’t get suspend and resume to work well, the network configuration wasn’t stable and the touchpad didn’t really work. Also font rendering wasn’t good.

@mnda @nasser I generally use linux mint with almost no configuring/tweaking and everything 'just works', might be worth a look?

@mnda @nasser Other O/Ss are completely alien and frustrating to me though. I think it's easy to understate the confusion and stress involved with changing operating system. It's a change of mindset

@nasser @yaxu I actually do pretty ok with different OSes as long as it’s not Windows. Windows is terrible.

@nasser @yaxu I think Elementary plus Homebrew for packages might work too though so I’ll give that a try as well.

@yaxu @nasser I’ll try that for a bit on my Linux laptop next time and see how it works. Have heard good things about it before.

I’m running Ubuntu on my server but the UI of Ubuntu is terrible and the packages are always outdated and impossible to fix yourself.

@mnda I would not recommend using anything based on Wayland yet. that seems to still be a recipe for headache and heartache, although I appreciate the effort. there is a question of hardware compatibility, and sometimes it's a bit of a gamble. I try and only use hardware that is confirmed to work well with Linux by others. if it's helpful at all these are my rough notes at setting up my Razer Blade with Arch / bspwm: notion.so/ramseynasser/Year-of

@nasser @tindall my co-workers are constantly bugging me about "hey do you know why I run into this weird error trying to run the tests" and it always comes down to being a weird mac thing. it's not even because macs are in the minority; everyone but me on the team uses them! it's so weird. one of them just switched to doing their dev work in virtualbox on their mac just to get a proper debian foundation that wouldn't randomly fail on them.

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