AWYEAH, that's it.

I know I told myself I wouldn't waste time doing this but the #plan9 babyblue was NOT calming me down, at all.

Teaching myself how to mod rio. Added wallpapers support from scratch today. Plan9 is amazing, it's everything I was promised, it's now my main daily driver.

Made #plan9's Acme feel a bit more confortable, hacked it a bit so shift+arrows move the selection left and right. Total game changer.

caaat wallaper

I've collected a bunch of #plan9 notes over at : https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/plan9.html

Implemented the XXIIVV logo in #plan9's draw(2)

Let's make some 3D stuff with #plan9's draw(2)

@neauoire they don't say what colorspace those colors in the plan9 code are specified in, so you have no idea if you're even looking at the correct color.

(You aren't, because sRGB, which your display uses, was only created in 1996)

@cancel Black and white is timeless.

@neauoire Mostly... be careful about dot gain :)

@neauoire Looking good!

@neauoire By daily driver, do you mean for e.g. email and web browsing also?

@tty Yeah :) I've got it setup so I can do both of these things right now. Email is a bit tricky since our company email is a gmail, but I'm trying to sort that out now. It still works, but it throws a ton of errors that makes it hard to read anything properly.

@neauoire Also, omigosh, you can cat /dev/screen to get the pixels? That's.. just.. so beautiful.

@neauoire WHY DON'T ALL COMPUTERS WORK THIS WAY

@tty I know right!! Have you read The Art Of Unix Programming?

@neauoire Yes! I read it maybe ~4 years ago, and still refer back to it once and a while.

@tty @neauoire it seems it's the season, had the same issue last week...

@tty @neauoire
It gets an Useless Use of Cat Award tho
http://porkmail.org/era/unix/award.html

@lkundrak @neauoire I never liked that article. It fails to consider the semantic clarity that `cat` can impart, which I consider *extremely* useful.

@tty @neauoire oh come on, what semantic clarity? :)

@lkundrak @neauoire Are you being sarcastic? I can try to explain, if you don't know what I mean.

@tty @neauoire partly, actually. I do have a theory about what you meant, but it's actually a little bit embarrassing and it's probably incorrect. If you care to explain then I'm happy to listen.

@lkundrak Sure, please do. (removing @neauoire from this tangent thread)

@neauoire do you have any good resources for undertanding and starting to use it? ive been wanting to try neindaw, but i havent been able to convince myself that installing plan9 would be worth it.

@jaxter184 I haven't tried neindaw yet, but I intend to. I'm not sure I have any good resource to offer.. But start here: https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/plan9.html

I'm writing a programming guide for plan9 at the moment, I will put it up in about 2 hours~

@neauoire I'm surprised you don't complain about that font. I find it hard to read.

@cancel I KNOW! It's so bad, I need to change the monospace one, the other one I like a lot.

@neauoire Maybe you can get Geneva 9pt on there somehow? The Mac one, which is used by default in THINK Pascal and other proportional text editors.

@neauoire There's probably some utility program that can convert bitmap fonts to the format Plan9 uses.

@cancel Yeah it's already on there, but last time I change the font it totally broke and I had to make a fresh image, so I'm a bit weary of trying that again.

I'm currently learning how to use the string tools in plan9 C, once I've understood it, I'll take another stab

@neauoire Oh wow, interesting

@neauoire A couple of months ago, because I'm still having to use monospace text editors most of the time, I ended up making my own monospace font for tiny screens based on the version of Monaco from System 7, but shaved off a pixel of height, and added a bold variant (without increasing width.)

@cancel I love it!! Can I have it?

@neauoire Yeah, what format? I can send it in BDF, or Windows .fon

@cancel I'm not sure what format plan9 takes, it just says .font? Is that a common thing?

@neauoire It's probably its own format

@neauoire @cancel maybe one of these could help https://9fans.github.io/plan9port/man/man7/font.html
https://9fans.github.io/plan9port/man/man3/cachechars.html
http://mirtchovski.com/p9/freetype/

@cancel @neauoire I'd like a BDF version of it if you have it. I could really use a font like this for my tiny screens as well!

@paul @neauoire OK, here it is as Windows .fon and also BDF. I don't know how (or if) you can put two variants in a single BDF file, so it's saved as Regular and Bold separately for that. (Windows .fon has both in it.)

https://cancel.fm/stuff/share/ChakraFont_0.6.zip

@paul @neauoire Some of the glyphs with diacritics and accents will be messed up, because I just started with a copy-paste of Monaco and then copy-pasted the accents onto characters that needed them and didn't clean those. I fix the characters with accents whenever I see one actually get used.

@paul @neauoire if there are some in French or whatever that actually get used, let me know and I'll fix them and upload a 0.7 version :)

@neauoire are you using legacy plan 9 or 9front? By the way I’m trying to create some kind of tilde server at gemini://9til.de, hopefully I’ll figure out the basics soon enough to launch it before the end of the summer :)

@glenda legacy for now :)

@glenda @neauoire Still very much looking forward to a 9til.de launch. :) But also eyeing off an unused RPi 1 after I realised 9front had an image for it...

@solderpunk @neauoire I secretly wish I can have you as some kind of guinea piggies for 9til.de as you know how to run this stuff :) I have most of the services figured out but still need to iron out some stuff like basic welcome documentation and so on. Unfortunately August is one of the busiest month for me so we’ll see what I can achieve🤞

@glenda @neauoire I am happy to help if you need, but there's certainly no rush! I know very little about Plan 9. I am not sure how much pubnix admin experience would transfer across. Welcome documentation should be pretty easy, though, stick it in a world-readable directory somewhere and mention that location in the MOTD, I assume Plan 9 has some equivalent of that?

@solderpunk yes I was thinking of something like what you did for the zaibatsu orientation with a MOTD and/or a man page. This will clearly be a space where everyone learns from each other and I love this idea!

@neauoire have you seen the 3d graphics done by rodri?

Might be useful for implementing new things or as a reference :)

https://github.com/SametSisartenep/3dee
https://github.com/SametSisartenep/libgraphics

@henesy Oh wow! That's just what I wanted, I was about to re-implement all this which was a total chore for me, I'll use that instead. Thanks :)

@neauoire happy to help :)

@neauoire @henesy I think I'll wait with 3d until we have proper hardware acceleration^W^W shader compilation and execution support. (I'd be happy to help here, but I've never done hardware or compilers)

@sirjofri @henesy I need simple 3d which I can nail in about 200 lines of C code, just wireframe basically.

I'm porting this little thing of mine: https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/graf3dscene.html

So I can keep progressing on this:
https://wiki.xxiivv.com/site/dinaisth.html

I'm actually almost done, I just have to finish implementing scale(), translate() and rotate(). I should be done today.