"Hey! Just wanted to tell you - you've inspired me to buy a new Thinkpad. Thanks!"
No, NO! That's not the point, that's really not the point at all. The important part of the whole thing was "second hand"
@neauoire I loved my X220 so much, old thinkpads are fantastic laptops. New thinkpads not so much.
@neauoire bought my old thinkpad used, now gonna give it to my fiancee for her to use later
@neauoire need less!
@kvothe there's so many computers rotting in people's basements that just need to find a foster home.
@neauoire ngl, sometimes people I know get visibly excited about whatever new whiz-bang stuff they’ve just bought or are about to buy. I want to share their joy, but also, I know that joy is fleeting.
It’s a real pickle! Only thing to do is do you, I suppose!
@neauoire everyone knows it's the old thinkpads that we should get excited for
@0x7D2B apparently not..
@neauoire at the very least seeing this post and the replies made me go turn on an old pda i have laying around. i wonder how good linux support is on that...
@neauoire step one of green tech - don't replace something that still works. Can't believe how so many people seem to skip that step.
@cancel @electret @neauoire my energy company lets me pay 15$/m more to offset my energy with 100% renewables https://www.we-energies.com/residential/acctoptions/eft.htm (23% is burned from landfill methane so its not co2 free but better than releasing it directly)
@neltnerb @cancel @electret @neauoire Using energy efficient tech and buying second-hand devices is still something I think is worth doing, even if it didn't have environmental impact. Throwing a spanner in the works of the profit model of large tech companies is ALWAYS worth it imo, even on a tiny scale
@nihilazo @cancel @electret @neauoire yeah, I've found this works for clothes and furniture and other things that could be hand made by one person, but I'm not sure how to do that for things like a television. I know some people working on green supply chains for electronic products but I don't know how to avoid bad companies when they're all bad and are collectively the only choice 😟
@neauoire @cancel @neltnerb @electret the thing with used CRTs is that they're incredibly cheap - but I still think that the power consumption is probalby too insane to be using one for most things today over an LCD, even getting an older LCD (although some things, like fighting/rhythm games, will always be better on CRTs)
@cancel where are you? I have never been in a place that has thrift stores that are not over flowing with crts for like 5$
@liaizon you *can* find them here, but they're often messed up in some way (burn-in, loud whining noises, busted connectors, can't keep signal timing for some reason...)
@cancel @neauoire @nihilazo @electret Your process for concluding that is extremely important though. More companies need to do "cradle to grave" lifecycle analyses and make that information more obvious to people buying stuff or else the "free market" can't do jack shit to help.
Energy star does these analyses for some products, my mum did a bunch about getting people to replace old refrigerators for them because for refrigerators it really was only like 10 years (fifteen years ago).
@neltnerb @cancel @electret @neauoire re: good companies, I feel like there are probably some tech companies that are better than others, but I don't think it's possible for a tech company to be good in 2020, even a tiny one, and compete in the current market which is fundementally built on exploitation for the sake of lowering prices.
@neltnerb This was how I avoided buying a PinePhone.
@ataraxia937 me too! And also how I avoided buying a librem 5! I will keep using the phone I have until it breaks. Then I will get the best Linux phone that is available at the time.
I've managed with this Sony for four years, if I get a few more out of it, with any luck they'll have phones running Linux that have the functionality I need, have been refined that much more, and aren't the size of Montana. ^_^
@neauoire i silently suffer a lot whenever someone propose to buy a lot of new electronic shit just to do an artistic/interactive installation, this is becoming a problem
@neauoire manual transmission nerds all bought second-hand, and look where that got us.
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