The Thinkpad's screen is not retina and uurgh, that's not going to cut it for doing print design..
@neauoire How'd they do print design before retina screens? 🤔
@cancel they didn't use computers.
@neauoire Yes they did :)
@cancel I would love to see them do this ad with that computer.
@neauoire Yeah, nobody used computers for print design between 1988 and 2012, right?
@neauoire Actually this conversation is really weird. Let me double check. You think people didn't do print design on computers until retina screens were created?
@cancel @dstn @neauoire my mom did pasteup well into the mid 90’s but only because she was so good at it and enjoyed it. it was tough to find work doing that once DTP software became so powerful. but yeah before that, x-acto knives, glue, letraset, measuring… I have a lot of memories of this stuff and have watched the evolution firsthand. We are SO spoiled today haha, but the old ways had a ton of interesting personal touch in some way. I wonder if there are documentaries on this at all.
My father was doing print design on Macs in the 80s and 90s, and in the 2000s before retina screens. And I mean full-time professionally at a company with a dedicated department for doing such things and the highest-end color proofing printers that could be bought.
@cancel @khm @neauoire yeah I used Quark XPress as well, I wanna say v4. I got really good grades on my school projects (if I did them) because I could use the DTP software from my parents’ business, all the high end fonts, nice graphics from stock photo or encyclopedia CDs and 300dpi (600?) laser-printed pages. totally unfair advantages all around haha 😅 teachers ate up Papyrus and the like hahaha
Other tools from the old DTP days were Harvard Graphics (which had a massive clip-art library) and Publish-It! (which ran on the Apple II and us plebs could afford to own). QuarkXPress' mortal enemy was Aldus PageMaker, yet another product Adobe bought and drowned.
There's an alternate timeline where Adobe didn't spend so many of their resources on only destroying other companies in the industry, and I want to know what it looks like.
@cancel @neauoire yeah same, my dad worked at magazines and later at a graphic design company for years which produced print materials of all kinds and sizes, and my parents had a graphic design home business on the side (which is why we had nice Macs with large screens at home, and laser printers haha)…. but yeah his earliest work was typing out layout instructions by hand and not seeing it until like a day later. measure twice, type once, I guess? lots of interesting stories haha
@neauoire Word of Caution from trying to upgrade my first x270's display: The display is very easy to remove and can physically be replaced without opening the laptop. BUT. You have to remove the internal battery, or you risk frying a specific fuse on the motherboard which will make it unusable
@neauoire I may or may not have forgotten there was an internal battery
@neauoire my (work) retina mbp is always plugged to a standard 1080p display. Of my eyes managed to survive screens pre-retina, I'm sure they can survive them now. I certainly have professionally done print design before retina was available
@neauoire time to get a 4K monitor on pino ahah
@neauoire sad thing is, even brand new ThinkPads come with 1080p displays unless you’re willing to go for an upgraded ($$$$) Intel machine. Otherwise the AMD T14s would have been a great choice as a Linux machine. :(
@neauoire what model is your thinkpad?
@neauoire you can probably upgrade your screen because most laptops use a common display connection method called eDP (embedded displayport). They come in 30 or 40 pin ribbon cables. I believe signaling is different between versions of eDP so you'll have to verify that the screen will work for your machine
@cone original X250 screen
@neauoire you can go up to 1080p as far as I know. This thread¹ has information about what screen you should get to be strictly compatible without any software modification. These thinkpad models have a display allowlist that can be broken² in case you want a higher quality screen. 1/2
@neauoire you can upgrade to a larger screen³ ⁴ if you are very brave and have access machining tools to cut the bezel smaller. This does require the bios mod as well. These threads⁵ ⁶ have information about panel compatibility. Additionally this thread⁷ says you can buy a modified bezel from taobao, but it's blocked in the US so I can't investigate. 2/2
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