@samebchase It's a bit more polished, and every day/chapter has new images, we added all the recipes we cooked on the trip too.

@neauoire awesome, will check it out!

@samebchase Lemme know which version you try, epub/mobi/pdf and how well it renders for you. We've only done limited testing :)

@neauoire yup!
That's why I'm writing my memory/thesis in orgmode

I yet fully control it but it's much better than a wysiwyg editor/compiler

@duponin @neauoire better than LaTex?

@cringegod @neauoire way easier and readable
But I can embed LaTeX in if needed

@duponin @neauoire oh cool

@neauoire Hey, cool -- I've been publishing ebooks for years, but I've always used Calibre. What are you using directly in the command line?

@mdm pandoc :)

@neauoire @mdm i'm surprised pandoc's rather massive size does not bother your minimalism

@neauoire @mdm i have been recently poking around with Racket’s Scribble but as a port to Janet†, and previously looked in to texinfo’s markup. I also encountered halibut and booklit by accident https://booklit.page/ which seem to follow similar ideas††.

The generic \command{par}{ameter} markup seems to get an extreme amount of mileage for very little parsing requirement since everything is the same grammar. Plus it ships with the advantage that patching new typography is easy since you can just add \mycustomdate{1B302} in

†Janet is a small, embeddable Lisp derivative in C. ††this is not an endorsement of those tools, but primarily the generic \foo{..} syntax and the spirit those tools work with.

@icedquinn @mdm we had used it on the Reform manual, since we already had it installed I don't think we needed to look further.

@icedquinn @mdm @neauoire I've been poking at Pollen[0] which is a super free-form Racket-based publishing system.

You define your own tags with the full power of Racket, meaning you can define all kinds of custom behavior on them. I'm building my digital garden in it and planning on writing custom tags that integrate with the WayBackMachine and Wikipedia. Or tags that download a linked image, resize it, and embed it in the page directly.

[0]: https://docs.racket-lang.org/pollen/

@reed @mdm @neauoire Pollen is a specialization of Scribble, yes.

Scribble basically converts a text stream `hello i am @emoji{blobcat}` to S-expressions `("hello i am " (emoji "blobcat"))`

@reed @mdm @neauoire i started to remark on this again because my zettelkasten can be accessed via gemini and that is presently done by just writing it in gemini and converting the gemini to HTML for other viewers.

but when it comes to going any other way around, i noticed even asciidoctor won't do things like support alt text in hyperlinks. and there's no real clean way to do this.

i've noticed typography has suffered heavy losses by people allowing their limited environments (ex. markdown) to shape them instead of reshaping their environment probably would end up its own thread.

@neauoire Very neat tool! I can see a use for pandoc in automatically converting the Word Doc submissions we get into a simple form of html that we can start working with.

I'll have to try and see how it works with our very customized html we use for textbooks (pandoc apparently supports a "subset" of html).

@neauoire May be this (from my blog) is of interest to you, regarding "The Go Programming Language" book typesetting.

https://rkrishnan.org/posts/2016-03-07-how-is-gopl-typeset.html

@neauoire how does the actual markup and styling work, is it CSS based? i have a few short stories lying around that i want to wrap up and bundle one day :>

@dom It is, have a look here to see how we put it together :) https://github.com/hundredrabbits/thebook

@neauoire so clean! really useful resource, thank you!

buying my copy any moment now, i'm thinking i'll read one entry per day to catch up in real time

@dom let us know if you have any question :D

@dom @neauoire Would have only used markdown with LaTeX for PDF, but had to add a few lines of CSS for the EPUB version.

@xiroux can I see what form you get? You shouldn't even need an account. Maybe we accidentally set a shipping address, lemme see..

@neauoire

@xiroux could you try now?

@neauoire Yay! It does not ask for it anymore. Thank you!

@ajroach42 yes! The book is 200 pages long, I bet there's a ton.

Actually, even better, could you turn the fixes into PRs?

https://github.com/hundredrabbits/thebook/blob/main/north_pacific_logbook.md

@neauoire Can and will. Also, really looking forward to this. The idea of long distance sailing appeals to me in the abstract.

@ajroach42 Well, if you have any question on how to make this idea concrete, let us know :)

@neauoire We'll see how I feel after reading this.

@dstn we have the same setup so it should work pretty good :)

@zabow SORREY

@tbd the writing has been polished a bit, and all the recipes are explained. We tried to translate a lot of the japanese vocab that we used too :)

@neauoire mixing ocean waves soundscape with Siri’s reading of the book for a kind of @rek audiobook - brings back memories of listening of old folk tales on vinyl

@tbd @rek you should play the 100R soundtrack in the background.
https://aliceffekt.bandcamp.com/album/hundred-rabbits

@dualhammers yeah! very good workflow. We also used Calibre to make the Kindle version. And ps2pdf to add the cover to the body of the book :)

@neauoire niiice! Yeah, linux seems to be the place to be as a writer. The tools for text are so good.

makes me wonder if I go the way I've been going with my notes if that will make an easy workflow down the line

@dualhammers What markup language do you use for your notes?

@neauoire Right now basic markdown, but I plan on uploading them in a way that they can also be viewed as plaintext instead of converting them

@dualhammers well, markdown is an excellent candidate to turning things into books :) The travel log was written entirely in mardown with a handful of latex blocks.