I've been quite inspired recently by finding a ton of cool personal websites and wikis and thought I would share my views on how freeing it is to make your own: https://ritualdust.com/craft/make-yourself-a-website/
@ritualdust Very nice article.
I don't like this phrasing: "Don’t bother looking into static site builders or deployment services until just uploading your files on your server is too much work."
[until just] is tough.
Don’t bother looking into static site builders until your website has grown enough that manually uploading your files becomes too much work.
@neauoire +1 on excising "just", makes tutorials & similar resources so much more welcoming (also excellent article!!!)
@z428 @neauoire @ritualdust @cblgh @pixouls This statement is true, but I’m not sure the situation is better now, as opposed to just bad on a different axis. Given the way every tech is deployed, certain types of “accessible” (e.g. screen readers) were much better back then. It often feels like we’ve made creation more accessible but consumption less, which I’m not sure is a good trade.
@a Well... get your point, am torn here. Do you think it's better to make consumption easy but leave production / publication of information only to people who are _technically_ trained? That feels quite a bit like the middle-ages where writing / copying books was knowlegde and skill reserved for a small elite. I always considered access to far-reaching (global) "writable" channels as one of the best thing digital technology could possibly do for people.
@z428 @neauoire @ritualdust @cblgh @pixouls Ideally, you want both reading and writing to be easy and accessible. But to the extent you have to make a trade off there, I think it’s important to remember that there are a lot more readers than writers, and that there’s a power imbalance (decisions writers make are pushed onto readers).
@a Hmmm... yes, but I'm unsure here. Is the fact that there are more readers than writers not at least to some extent also caused by the fact that writing is (also technically) more difficult than reading? I don't completely disagree, but I think we should strive to get technical complexity out of the writers way. Like: Does a writer have to still know about IP addresses, markup, styles, ... in the 2020s? Or should a writer be an expert in ...
@a ... a (most likely non-technical) special field of "knowledge" and be able to use technology as a tool without having to think too much about it? I feel there's still too much tech knowledge required here if you don't want to sell your soul to the large corporations.
@a (Coming back to this, just as an idea: Sometimes I think we would need way less "server/hosting-centric" stuff, in example, and way more stuff like #ssb or true P2P/decentralized technologies where end users could just write and gather whichever "content" they see relevant on their devices and have easy, reliable, secure means of sharing this with whoever matters to them, up to a "global public".)
@ritualdust @cblgh @neauoire As someone who frequently abuses the word "simply," I can vouch that "simply" is another word that needs exorcism. It's tough when you've been indoctrinated through years of glossy ad copy, though.
My technique, assuming that I even remember to follow it, is to try and write the page as you normally, informally would. Let it sit for a day or two. Then, do a search for words like "is", "simply", etc. 9 times out of 10, the sentences they appear in can be phrased better without them.
@exquisitecorp thanks! I'm very fond of it, the same way I would be of a rock collection or an old book ~
@ritualdust i got into the personal website rabbit hole about a year ago and i haven't looked back since. to be honest, the modern web is overrated and gentrified to the core where you have to accept cookies for everything ever as well as dealing with a load of bloat.
i'm glad i got into this rabbit hole, but i wish i was around in the 90's (2001 baby here, now 20 years old) so that i could have experienced the early days of the web instead of experiencing it through second hand nostalgia.
@rozina glad you went there, it is really bad indeed, I work as a software engineer making some of these apps for a company and it's draining my life force haha, it's so bad also how capitalism pushed everyone to become a "personal brand" and try to sell something. If there's resources or websites that helped you get into it without that previous knowledge feel free to share, I'd really like to make it as accessible as possible to new people :)
@ritualdust it sure is bad, and i don't really fancy becoming a personal brand, not to mention monetising hobbies because capitalism.
one of the things that helped me get into it was this essay: https://neustadt.fr/essays/the-small-web/ as well as browsing the brutalist websites website for design inspiration and reading books about net.art (specifically internet art by rachel greene)
The closest thing I find today of the experience of the 90ies web is to go on the #Tor hidden network. And look for websites there. They take a while to load. And you don't know what you're gonna get. The way to navigate is to hop from one website to another (no good search engine on the dark web) and hope to find a good page that lists to a load of other good sites.
@rozina @ritualdust I was around for the late 90s web and I think it's really easy to think too fondly on it. Things could feel pretty bloated then, too, because most average users didn't have high-speed access. Sites had less interactivity, but there were plenty of web 'zines (Gothic.net was my favorite then). Digital cameras didn't exist, so even a picture of yourself was a bit of a feat. Probably the nicest part was that lynx worked with everything.
@rozina @ritualdust A little bit, yes. There's a super valid criticism that "the capitalist Web" has fundamentally gone the wrong way and that "browser as an applications platform" has sacrificed openness, community, accessibility, and many other things. We should want to take those things back. But we should also remember that the 90s Web required technological skill to be a part of, which was itself also undemocratic, and that bloat always scales to what technology will endure.
@neauoire @rozina @ritualdust 16 y/o me used Tripod and there was definitely a lot of editing HTML by hand. But even moreso, there was also the challenge of finding a local ISP (I learned one existed through the BBS community, which required technical skill to navigate), getting set up with them, etc, and getting Windows 3.1 and later Win95 rigged up for dial-up networking. I don't think we can use ourselves as measures of ease of access in technology.
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