One thing that really strikes me about the local activism is how dependent their communications are on US based tech giants.


Or Russian. Point is that it's lacking resilience in communication and organization, which seems precarious.

While I do understand that reach is still largest on those platforms, there seems to be no consciousness about alternatives.

RSS? We're not in the stone age.
HTTPS? Who needs that?
Static content without JS delivery from big tech? Forget it.
Decentralized social media? What is that even

If we want social, environmental and economic change to happen, we also need to consider the role of electronics and digital communication.

@rostiger I was thinking about this the other day. We use Signal for everything when it comes to our activist groups due to encryption, but it makes it so damn hard to organize. And at the end of the day, we don't own that software; we rely on the goodwill of Signal to not take our communications and do something with it.

@eejum @rostiger
I agree and also find it unnecessarily difficult. Just a personal recommendation: a truly open source and legitimately decentralized messaging platform is Session, but it's occasionally buggy, especially with group messages, and doesn't provide audio or video messaging at this time. However, I recommend it IF your work could get you in legal trouble (now or in some future), as even the metadata is encrypted and the messages are never stored in any central database.

@dualhammers Sorry, I got a bit ranty. T'was a huge exaggeration. But when I mention RSS to app devs their responds lean towards pitiful smiles.

@rostiger Yeah, well they're primed to think anything that doesn't lead to another startup is a waste of time

@dualhammers Convincing people is so exhausting that I'd rather talk to those who already are. But echo chambers aren't useful either, so I suppose there needs to be a certain amount of friction.

@rostiger you don't convince people by talking, you convince people by showing then, sometimes, talking

@rostiger I think it very very much depends on the group. From my limited experience of it, native water defenders in the US are well aware of this — often turning to word of mouth and radio for on the ground actions.

@eli_oat Oh for sure - it's merely an observation on local groups here in Austria that I've made over the last few weeks.
And it's not the most pressing issue either. But so far I have the impression that there is no awareness whatsoever.

@eli_oat And I'm not deep into the topic either. It could very well be that they rely on more resilient communications for direct coordination.

This point is really interesting. I personally led local activism initiatives for several years - obviously pre-Covid - and I honestly noticed that this "huge reach" of commercial social networks is either ephemeral or somply non-existent. Algorhytms simply keep you in your bubble, where interactions can be maximized, and we experimented that posting bills around and making IRL networking made us build a reach which was definitely bigger and stronger.

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